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The President’s Inbox

Europe Reacts to Trump’s Victory, With Liana Fix and Matthias Matthijs (Transition 2025, Episode 4)

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.5698 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Liana Fix, a fellow for Europe at CFR and adjunct professor at Georgetown University, and Matthias Matthijs, a senior fellow for Europe at CFR and associate professor of international political economy at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, sit down with James M. Lindsay to discuss how governments across Europe are preparing for a second Trump administration. This episode is the fourth in a special TPI series on the U.S. 2025 presidential transition and is supported by the Carnegie Corporation of New York.   Mentioned on the Episode   “A Second China Shock, With Brad Setser,” The President’s Inbox   Liana Fix, “NATO and Ukraine: The Peril of Indecision,” Survival   Liana Fix and Michael Kimmage, “The Ukraine Scenarios,” Foreign Affairs   Matthias Matthijs, “Europe’s Leadership Void,” Survival For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/europe-reacts-trumps-victory-liana-fix-and-matthias-matthijs-transition-2025-episode-4

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the President's Inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay, the Mary and David Boyes Distinguished Senior Fellow in U.S. foreign policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.

0:12.5

This is the fourth episode in a special presidential transition series on the President's inbox.

0:18.8

From now until inauguration day, I'm sitting down with experts

0:22.3

to unpack who will staff the Donald Trump administration and how it will likely approach

0:27.6

the foreign policy challenges it faces. This week's topic is Europe's reaction to Trump's victory.

0:39.6

With me to discuss how governments across Europe are preparing for a second Trump administration

0:44.9

are Leanna Fix and Matthias Matisse.

0:48.8

Leanna is a fellow for Europe at the Council.

0:51.7

Her research focuses on European security, transatlantic relations in Russia.

0:57.4

She is also an adjunct professor at Georgetown University's Center for German and European Studies

1:03.5

and the Center for Eurasian, Russian, and East European Studies. Along with Michael Kimmage,

1:09.5

she's the author of the popular Ukraine scenario series

1:13.2

at Foreign Affairs Magazine. She recently wrote a piece for survival magazine titled

1:18.8

NATO in Ukraine, the peril of indecision. Matias is a senior fellow for Europe at the Council

1:26.8

and the Dean Adjison Associate Professor

1:29.8

of International Political Economy at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

1:36.7

His research focuses on Europe's political economy, the politics of economic ideas,

1:42.6

in regional integration. He has written on all three topics for

1:47.1

outlets such as current history, foreign affairs, foreign policy, and the Journal of Democracy.

1:53.8

He recently wrote an article for Survival Magazine titled Europe's Leadership Void.

1:59.3

Leanna and Matthias, thank you for joining me on the president's inbox.

2:03.3

And congratulations on being so popular with the editors at Survival Magazine.

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