The musicians are just magical people.

As naive as that sounds, I always thought that just like, these people are just, you don't

need to be really that good.

It's just as long as you're broadcasting that vibe and living that lifestyle, you're already in a breakaway civilization.

You're already not walking this horrendous, you know, force-fed dictatorship lifestyle.

So I felt like if you're one foot in whether it's Mosh Pit or Orchestra Pit, it's the same.

Music is the subculture.

If you're really part of it, it's what you're saying.

It's like you're already on a different level if you're dedicating yourself to the craft of music.

People usually say, like, I mean, musicians' walk of life

is so thorned with so many different ups and downs

and just don't do it if you really don't have what it takes.

But I feel different.

I feel like people who are musicians who are not even successful,

just there's still life is a lot more happier than like.

I agree.

You know, like I have a bunch of friends

who just get in a van and fucking go up and down, East Coast

for like do 10 dates.

The band like draws like 50 people.

They're fucking psyched, man.

It's not like a low bar.

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