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EU Confidential

EU top jobs kickoff — finding compromise with Viktor Orbán

EU Confidential

POLITICO

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4.4175 Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In this episode we look at the ongoing tug-of-war between Budapest and Brussels in the context of a rather shocking development that could pave the way for Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán — who has won a reputation as the bloc's biggest troublemaker — to chair meetings of EU leaders and set the EU agenda. It follows a surprising decision by European Council President Charles Michel to step down and run for a seat in the European Parliament. Host Sarah Wheaton and colleagues Barbara Moens and Hans von der Burchard delve into the quibbles and clashes Viktor Orbán has had with Brussels over the years, and how the EU has tried to play ball with the Hungarian leader. And yes — they also report on the infamous "toilet break" Viktor Orbán took at the last EU summit in December, which paved the way for accession talks with Ukraine and Moldova. Then Sarah and Nick Vinocur, POLITICO's editor-at-large, talk to Professor Alberto Alemanno, an expert on EU law who has taken a hard line on Hungary, and who has even suggested Budapest be stripped of the EU's rotating presidency.  Finally, we bring you a Hungarian perspective from our guest Frank Füredi, executive director of the Brussels office of Hungary's government-backed MCC think tank. We also recommend you listen to the latest episode of our sister podcast, Power Play. Host Anne McElvoy talks to Latvian Foreign Minister Krišjānis Kariņš (a contender for the job of NATO's next secretary-general) and gets his reaction to Michel's shocking decision. Here is the link: Taking on Russia: Krišjānis Kariņš’ pitch to lead NATO and defend Ukraine – POLITICO. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So we were sitting at the European Council Summit in Brussels.

0:38.4

This is our colleague Hans van der Bershard.

0:40.9

And it was just before Christmas and everybody was exhausted.

0:45.2

It was the end of the year.

0:47.1

He's telling us about what some might consider to be one of the most consequential political

0:50.8

moments in recent EU memory.

0:53.6

Everybody was kind of nervous that this might

0:56.1

become a very difficult EU leaders meeting. The European Commission did recommend at the beginning

1:02.8

of November the start of accession negotiations for Ukraine and for Moldova. So that is what

1:10.4

Viktor Orban is going against in pushing back on, let's say, at the start of this

1:16.3

very important summit here in Brussels.

1:18.7

There had been all these warnings that this summit, because of the blockage, the potential

1:23.6

veto of Victor Orban, that this could just drag out the summit over days.

1:28.3

Enlargement is not a theoretical issue.

1:31.3

Enlargement is a merit-based, legally detailed process, which has preconditions.

1:38.3

We have set up seven preconditions.

1:41.3

And even by the evaluation of the Commission, three out of the seven is not fulfilled.

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