This is CBS I in the world. I'm John Vatsuit. Judy Demsie. She is the editor-in-chief of Strategic

Europe. She is in Berlin for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Judy, again,

we're in the speculation, but it's meant to be that way because Vladimir Putin has

thrown an axe down on the table. The axe is called Tactical Nuke Arsenal. We're told

that Russia has many, many, many tactical nuke to be deployed in battlefield situations.

This is what we're told. But now, Vladimir Putin, following the Putin-she summit, says that

he intends to deploy them into the hands of the Minsk government, that's Lukashenko,

who is seen as a stooge of Vladimir Putin. But Belarus is hardly a stable country. What does

this mean for Eastern Europe, Poland? At this point, can we speculate that now this means

the rest of Europe has to decide, is it going to be nuclear power or is NATO enough?

No, no, no. We have to think out of the box on this or rather remain in the box. And this

is yet another threat and provocation by President Putin, for us to say. And secondly, that he

keeps threatening nuclear weapons. And the idea of the threat of using nuclear weapons

was to move on to recently, is quite shocking. And now threatening now to use a Mambiela

Roos is somehow, he thruttled that many feathers in the European member states, as far as

I know, just reading the headlines of the countries who are members of the EU and NATO.

But this is a desperation. The fact that he places weapons in a country which is dysfunctional,

which is authoritarian, which is locked away so many people, which has a dictator, which

actually is very ambiguous about fully supporting Putin's war in Ukraine. This is about seeing

if the West can stick together on this. But it's a dirty game. And it's a dangerous one.

And if you use the language of nuclear weapons in this day and age, which Putin did several

months ago, after his invasion of Ukraine, the West has to stand firm and say, this is really

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