Ethics Violations, Psychopathic Therapists, and Quitting Therapy
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 21 May 2025
⏱️ 64 minutes
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00:00 Why do we enjoy discussing ethics?
03:00 Are psychopathy and sociopathy the same?
11:18 Umbrellas of empathy
18:12 Is shame equated to empathy?
23:17 Can therapists have personality disorders?
33:58 Is an accredited program better?
39:21 Do professors need to be harsh?
43:31 How can I prime clients for termination?
52:27 Can it be therapeutic to have boundaries with clients?
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May 21, 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Deserving listeners. Today I want to talk about ethics, ethical codes, ethical decision |
| 0:06.0 | making, ethical dilemmas, ethical questions, ethical situations for therapists. I think that |
| 0:13.5 | even non-therapists find these debates or these dilemmas or these decisions or these |
| 0:19.9 | guidelines interesting. |
| 0:23.6 | And for myself, I think I finally figured out why I love talking about ethics cases and |
| 0:31.1 | ethical dilemmas. |
| 0:32.5 | One is that it gives me a sense of safety when I understand, one, what the rules are for me, |
| 0:43.0 | and because it's hard to know. And in graduate school, we're not given enough information to |
| 0:49.3 | really make decisions for ourselves. In fact, a lot of graduate school courses that I've taught even |
| 0:54.6 | will in the end say, look, we're going to give you a lot of information, but if you ever |
| 1:00.9 | are faced with an actual ethical dilemma, you need to consult with an expert, potentially even |
| 1:06.9 | a lawyer. So don't consider this education as permission to make these decisions on your own, |
| 1:16.2 | particularly in the beginning, because in the beginning of post-grad work, we are required to |
| 1:21.1 | have supervision and the supervisors are required to guide us specifically with this. So it's pretty complicated and it took |
| 1:30.2 | me a long time as a therapist, but also as a professor and as a supervisor to feel like I had |
| 1:36.3 | the foundation to speak expertly about this sort of thing. The other thing that it is satisfying for me is that it makes me feel safe as a person in |
| 1:50.9 | society to know that, at least in the mental health professions, there's a lot of thought |
| 1:58.5 | and a lot of care and self-policing that protects clients. |
| 2:05.2 | There are problems, of course, and a part of me highlighting some of the problems has to do with |
| 2:11.2 | promoting ideas for other therapists to watch out for this sort of thing, and also to promote |
| 2:16.8 | the culture of |
| 2:17.8 | care for clients and for non-harm and for ourselves. |
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