Well, as Claudia referenced, the Ethics Committee largely operates in secret.

Democrats and Republicans are always equally represented on the panel with five apiece,

regardless of which parties in power.

They conduct their work and investigations entirely behind closed doors without public notice

and generally avoid sharing details outside of finalized published reports.

But this investigation and its potential to upend the nomination of former Congressman Matt

Gates is straining those norms.

House Speaker Mike Johnson has called for the report to be buried, while Senate Democrats

are looking into whether or not

they can subpoena it. Representative Mark DeSanier of California was in the room today, one of the

five Democratic members on the committee, and he joins us now. Congressman, thanks for being

with us. Welcome to the NewsHour. Thank you so much for inviting me.

With Claudia just reported there, your Democratic colleague on the committee, Susan Wilde,

came out and confirmed there was a vote that committee members disagreed over whether to release

the report.

We're reading between the lines here.

Can you confirm that it was a deadlock vote, that Republicans voted to not release,

and Democrats voted to release it.

Unfortunately, I cannot.

The rules of the House Ethics Committee is that I can't talk to you about anything that happened in the room

and that that is deferred to the ranking member and the chair.

I can talk to you generally about what I think

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