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So we've been friends for quite a bit, so this is a real pleasure for me to be presenting with you.

And just based on your history, it seems you've always had a goal of helping people achieve individual freedom, liberty,

and considering the landscape where we're seeing

decentralized entities as well as centralized entities in the AI space as well as in the crypto space,

is there a, would you call it a war that is going on between decentralized information versus

centralized information?

Where are we in that conundrum and where will it progress?

I don't think it's a war.

At least I don't see it as a war.

I see it as different options and different value benefits for each option.

My company is called decentralized, so my focus is on decentralized technologies.

But I'm also not an extremist where I feel that everything should be decentralized or everything will be.

And I think there's choices and options and those options are going to suit different people.

I mean, I've learned over the years that banks are a relatively safe place to put money.

If you want to be secure, and sometimes holding your own money,

or being in control of your own digital assets also has its risks,

and security risks and things like that.

So I see both sides of it, and I'm not in any way saying, you know, everything's got to go decentralized.

And I just think people have choices to make based on different features and options, and sometimes a centralized means are good as well.

All right.

You know, you're, everyone knows you as one of the co-founders of Ethereum.

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