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🗓️ 11 June 2025
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Which companies will lead and which will be left behind as AI transforms the way we work? Nicolai Tangen connects with Ethan Mollick, Wharton professor and author of 'Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI,' to explore how organizations can harness AI's revolutionary potential. They discuss the growing adoption of AI tools across workforces, proven tactics for driving company-wide implementation, the rise of autonomous AI agents, and why traditional training approaches may be missing the mark. Ethan reveals insights from his research showing that AI works best as a collaborative teammate rather than a replacement. With AI capabilities advancing faster than expected, organizations face increasing urgency to act. Tune in for an insightful conversation!
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0:00.0 | Hi everybody, Nicola Tangen from the Norwegian Southern Wealth Fund. |
0:04.7 | And today I am here with Ethan Molyck, one of my favorite professors, a professor at Wharton, |
0:11.1 | and who was out not long ago with a book called Co-intelligence, |
0:16.5 | Living and Working with AI. |
0:17.9 | And actually, you can see it behind Ethan there, down to the right. |
0:22.9 | If you haven't got it, run and buy it. |
0:33.8 | Ethan, if you were a chief AI officer in a company for the next three months, what kind of top actions would you take straight away? |
0:44.6 | So I think that the most important thing is to get people actually aware of where the state of the art and AI is. |
0:50.7 | I talk to companies all the time, and I think that a lot of executive level people |
0:54.9 | may have tried AI a while ago or didn't use it personally and don't realize how potentially |
1:00.4 | transformative it is. And I think that I have a sort of general idea that you need to involve |
1:05.9 | your team leadership, you need to involve a set up a lab that's doing research and you need to think about |
1:11.0 | how to roll this out to the crowd to everybody in the organization. So you've got to kind of |
1:14.5 | bring the whole company with you, which is not always an easy thing to do. And how do you |
1:19.0 | maximize the uptake in the organization? So I think that's a really good question. And I think |
1:25.5 | we're still figuring out the answers. But it's kind of like any other thing you want to do. You have to think about incentives and you have to think |
1:31.1 | about leadership, right? So why are people incentivized to use this? Now, the thing that makes AI |
1:35.1 | interesting is everybody's already using it. So there's a new study that just came out that showed |
1:38.8 | in representative sample of Americans, American workers. The usage went from 30% in February to 40% of people using AI at work, |
1:46.5 | a little over 40% as of April. |
1:49.1 | So it's used everywhere. |
1:50.8 | The thing is people aren't showing you they're using it because they're hiding it because |
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