Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

I'm Rhett Miller.

That's when it got wheels off.

He started under the ain't going to stop.

Oh, she made me feel like a good God.

That's when it got wheels off.

Esther Rose has a new album called Want that will drop on May 2nd, and it's great.

It's an adventurous, hard-hitting album.

It's deep, lyrically deep.

It's sonically rich.

She's always done great work.

I've been a fan for a while.

We have been social media friends in that way that you can be with other artists whom you admire and you have friends in common.

But we had never sort of sat down face to face, albeit virtually, in the case of this conversation, until now.

And she's great.

She's super thoughtful.

If you're listening to this podcast, you will not be able to see the visual.

But it was kind of wonderful the way she listens to questions by closing her eyes

and really focusing and then giving you a very thoughtful answer.

I really love her take on stuff.

There's a lot of music.

There's a lot of life on the road.

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