Normally this podcast is couple sessions and individual sessions, but I have a lot of other conversations that are quite important and interesting to me.

And here is one of them that I thought

I actually really want to bring it,

put it on the feed, and have you all listen to it.

I'm sitting and talking with Brennay Brown, researcher, professor, social worker and activists,

host of the podcast Unlocking Us.

She's doing a whole new series on how do we live beyond human scale and she asked me a ton of very thoughtful questions for which I tried to be thoughtful in response and I invite you to listen in.

Hi everyone I'm Bernay Brown and this is unlocking us.

This is the first episode in a series that we're doing about living beyond human scale,

the possibilities, the costs, and the role of community.

It's just going to be a series of conversations about everything from social media, what's great about it, and what is showy about it,

AI, everything that's changing in our work lives, and in the way that we produce

information and consume information, personally and professionally, there are so many

possibilities around this crazy big stuff happening around us, but at the same time, I'm not sure that we are socially, biologically, cognitively, and spiritually wired to live at this kind of scale.

And so I am going to do several podcasts that are unlocking us. We're going to do a crossover episode

and then several podcasts on Living Beyond Human

Scale for Dare to Lead.

This first one is with Esther Perraille

and I'll tell you more more but I'll just use her

language from this interview that you're getting ready to listen to one I thought

was just an incredible way to capture living beyond human scale Esther said I have a thousand friends, but not a single person to feed my cat.

It seems like, again, there are incredible possibilities and there are some big fat red flags that I'm experiencing and

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