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The Psychology Podcast

Esther Perel || Love, Eros, and Infidelity

The Psychology Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Science, Social Sciences

4.4 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I talk to renowned psychotherapist and author Esther Perel about love and relationships. We tackle the true essence of the word “eros” and “freedom” in the context of romantic relationships. Esther offers her perspective on marriage and affairs, getting to the root cause of why people cheat. With the redefinition of fidelity and sexuality, our current society is still learning how to navigate new patterns of relationships. We also touch on the topics of soulmates, masculinity, how to keep passion alive during a global pandemic, and Esther’s practice as a cross-cultural therapist. 

Bio

Esther Perel is a psychotherapist and a New York Times bestselling author, recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she hones a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED Talks have garnered more than 30 million views and her best-selling books Mating in Captivity and The State of Affairs are global phenomena translated into nearly 30 languages. Esther is also an executive producer and host of the popular podcast Where Should We Begin? And How’s Work? Her latest project is Where Should we Begin − A Game of Stories with Esther Perel. 

Website: www.estherperel.com/ 

Instagram: @estherperelofficial 

Topics 

00:02:14 Adapting to the COVID-19 pandemic 

00:05:04 Social connection during the pandemic 

00:10:41 “The erotic is an antidote to death” 

00:16:02 True freedom in relationships 

00:21:05 Soulmates don’t exist 

00:25:38 Why people in happy marriages cheat 

00:33:54 Where Should We Begin? 

00:38:00 Redefining marriage, fidelity, and sexuality 

00:45:30 Esther’s cross-cultural approach to therapy 

00:48:35 Esther’s interest in cultural transitions, identity, and relationships 

00:54:01 The masculine obsession with power 

00:59:13 The Great Adaptation 
 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone and welcome to the Psychology Podcast. I'm especially excited for today's

0:09.8

episode. For one, we are relaunching the podcast with Stitcher. They're one of the leading

0:15.1

podcast networks and we're really looking forward to working with them to bring the

0:18.4

podcast to the next level. Second, I'm really excited about our guest today, the Stair

0:23.2

Parallel. The Stair is a psychotherapist and a New York Times bestselling author recognizes

0:28.7

one of today's most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. In this

0:33.3

episode, I talked to a Stair about love and relationships, especially in the age of

0:37.3

a global pandemic. A Stair also offers her perspective on how to keep passion alive during

0:42.3

her marriage, as well as affairs, getting to the root cause of why people cheat. We also

0:47.9

tackle the essence of the words eros and freedom, and we touch on the topics of soulmates,

0:53.4

affairs, masculinity, and a Stair's practice as a cross-cultural therapist. I've been looking

0:58.8

forward to this conversation with a Stair for years and I'm delighted to finally be able

1:02.8

to bring it to you all. So without further ado, I bring you a Stair Parallel.

1:09.5

Stair, it's so great to chat with you today. I've been looking forward to this for years,

1:14.9

actually. It's pleasure to be here. You're patient. You've been very patient. I have been

1:21.7

in, you know, my mom told me patients often pays off. So I'm very excited to chat with

1:28.2

you. Why is rumored? I remember at the American Psychological Association conference, we were

1:34.8

also captivated by your keynote. We were at the front row and we came up to you afterwards

1:39.6

this couple of years ago. I don't know if you remember this. We didn't expect you

1:43.7

know, you'd actually show up. We just wanted to invite you to our division 10 social for

1:48.4

our art thing. And then you came in, I think with your husband, you came in with your husband,

1:52.7

and we're like, oh my God, is there a kid to our social? You made our lives. So I just want

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