What is up Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.

Esther Perel, welcome back to Call Her Daddy.

It's a treat for me to be back. Third time. I know. I'm so happy. This is the first time that we've met in person.

That's right. And it feels right. I remember during the pandemic, I felt like you were my safe place.

I was like, I need you. We all need you. Talk to me. And we had such an amazing, we've had such

amazing conversations. And today, I'm just ready to get back into it.

For anyone who lives under a rock, you are a renowned psychotherapist and a relationship expert.

You're also one of the best couples therapists out there. You focus on modern relationships,

intimacy, infidelity. And I think a lot of the things that you practice

and focus on is going to be very relatable to my audience today. So should we just get into it?

It's where shall we begin, as you say, on the podcast. Where should we begin? I think a lot of

women are really, really discouraged by the current state of dating.

What do you think is just behind that? There's a lot of things behind what's happening to dating.

Dating is the symptom. But maybe one way of asking is what's going on in the world of relationships.

Okay. That is making dating more

complicated. The world of dating itself, romantic consumerism is really challenging. When you are

constantly looking for the perfect and afraid to settle for the good, when you are dealing

continuously with the paradox of choice,

with so many options and looking for a soulmate on an app and with a tremendous case of FOMO,

when the ick factor is so omnipresent and very, very quick to kick in. When we need more social skills than we ever needed before

because we are living in such a contactless reality and we actually don't have the skills

to speak to people, to look at them. What is one of the first things we just did when we saw

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