Before you listen to the upcoming Esther Calling, where we talk about work, I want to announce

to you an upcoming interview, conversation that I have had with Ira Glass, the host of

Dis-American Life, or in my words, the Godfather of Budcasts, where we too discuss work, especially

when we come to a point where we are beginning to lose steam for something that still gives

enormous pleasure to others.

I've been doing the radio show I do since the 90s and, you know, 800 episodes and I'm

aware of like, what am I spending my time on this earth doing?

I probably should try something new, like I don't even know what that would be, I'd really

have to take time and figure out what that would be.

How often have you done what you're doing today?

Today.

Here with me now.

Is this being interviewed or is this a therapy session?

No, no.

It's a multitude of things, but like how often have you done that?

Someone on somebody else's show without any idea of what you're going to talk about,

with some ideas of what it could be, and just kind of showed up because you're curious.

That's the main reason why you came, no?

Yes, yes.

Join me and Ira Glass on Apple subscription on Office Hours.

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