Hey everyone, welcome into another edition of the WojPod here with Jonathan Gavoni, ESPN's NBA draft analyst, the foremost expert in every prospect from New York to the Netherlands to Africa, the Ivory Coast.

Jonathan scours the globe for us at ESPN, and Jonathan, it is good, and we're going to go see some more players tonight over just across

the bridge here in Brooklyn. But how are you? I'm doing great, Woj, how are you? Good. This is

starting to be your time of the year. Got college tournaments, got European, a lot of teams

are in Europe right now, or scouts are going over front office people to see players there,

which you do year round.

But the college stuff is picking up.

And your most recent mock draft on ESPN, or you really it's this time of year it's really more

your top 60 prospects who knows the order of anything it feels as though it is as wide open as any

draft and recent i don't think there's a consensus top three right now, is there?

No, it's wide open right now, Woj.

I've been doing this for 20 years now.

It's my 20th draft.

And usually by now we have a very good idea of what the top three is going to look like. And even what the top five is going to look like, you know, it changes.

Guys move up, guys move down. But even like a year

and a half out, we usually know the top players. And this is a very, very different year because

it's a unique high school class that became high college freshman. It's especially weak.

There was no consensus there about who the best

players were. And so I think there's just going to be a lot of movement. I had breakfast with an

NBA GM this morning. And he told me, he said, I told our scouts, we have our preseason rankings,

but I'm ready to throw those out the window in about a month's time. And we're going to start brand new. We're going to look at this thing fresh. We're not going to, you know, think of, well, because this guy was, you know, ranked seventh, you know, then he can't slide this far. No, we're going to, we're going to have an open mind. We're going to scour the globe. We're going to go to

mid-major games. We're going to be, you know, looking under every rock. And there is a very good

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