I want to start out talking about China because, you know, right now with the tariffs and with

Taiwan and everything going on, we've seen a lot in the headlines recently about China

and some of the trade wars.

And we've heard a lot about military-aged men coming across the border

into America. I want to hear your thoughts and insights on China, because according to you and

others, China has admitted two cyber attacks against America already and for quite some time.

Is that a fair statement?

Yeah, that is a fair statement.

They let slip during a meeting overseas, which were several fairly high-ranking U.S.

officials, the notion that they were behind a number of cyber attacks and various forms

of cyber shenanigans over the years.

It's kind of a statement of the obvious, in a sense.

And I think whenever you talk about China, the Chinese regime, we're not talking about the

people, the population, they're great, the history,

the culture. There's so many fascinating and good aspects of China as a country. But we're

talking about the regime led by Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party and their intel apparatus.

A couple of things that are really important to remember with them is that

they play the long game. They look at the world and they look at history and they look at time,

the movement of time differently than we do or the West does. And by that, I mean, they really do

have a long vision. We tend to get, I think, in the U.S., and if you just drill down

and narrow it down to our operations, our intelligence operations, we tend to have ADHD,

right? We're always chasing the next shiny tinfoil ball like a raccoon. And so our time frame

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