All right. Welcome back to the Ken Matthews report. My pleasure to have Jay Dyer on. Jay is an author,

comedian, TV presenter, known for his deep analysis of Hollywood, geopolitics, culture.

I see your graduate work focused on psychological warfare, which I'm totally into. Every parent is

film. And I see you're the author of two books. Of course, we have them both here. I finish

the first. I'm starting the second. Esoteric. That's old. There's a third book now, so I need to

Oh, there is. Yeah, I got a big fat philosophy book that's out.

Cool. Your co-creator and co-hosts of the television show Hollywood Decoded. You've been featured on numerous popular shows and podcasts. Yeah, I've seen you all over the, all over the interweb system.

And you've debated with some of the top debaters. And I, I, those are pretty

interesting too. Because there's a lot of Muslim debates in the last five years. I would imagine.

New domain to step into there with Islam. I grew up doing a lot of debates because I was in

the philosophy club and the debate club and all that in college.

So I have a long history of debate, but I had some friends that were really into debating

with Muslims and they kind of got me into that in about 2018.

So that's been an interesting track.

I didn't really know much about Islam.

So you deep dive on Muslim and what are some of the things you debate?

Are you debating the tenets of various religions or belief systems or Americanism?

What are you debating?

Well, it started with when I got into more of the geopolitical stuff back in undergrad, I was reading some

of the texts that dealt with understanding 9-11, understanding Islamic world views and so forth.

So I was looking at Islam at that time from a geopolitical perspective.

And I got really interested in the history of British intelligence and their tendency

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