Escaping the Two-Party Trap: A Blueprint for Change

Andrew Yang Podcast

Humanity Forward Productions

Society & Culture

4.8 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Rob Sand, Iowa's only statewide elected Democrat, joins Andrew Yang to discuss breaking partisan divides, fixing broken political systems, and why Iowa still matters. From bowhunting to open primaries, this conversation explores what real public service looks like. Learn more about Rob Sand and his vision to reshape Iowa's government for the better: https://robsand.com/ Watch the full episode on ⁠YouTube⁠ Have any burning questions for Andrew on our next Q&A episode? Send your questions and voice memos to ⁠[email protected]⁠! ---- Follow Andrew Yang: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Rob Sand: Bluesky | Instagram | TikTok | Website | X ---- Get 50% off Factor at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Factor Meals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get an extra 3 months free at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Express VPN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get 20% off + 2 free pillows at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Helix Sleep⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Use code: helixpartner20 Get $30 off your first two (2) orders at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Wonder ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| Use code: ANDREW104 ---- Subscribe to the Andrew Yang Podcast: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This week on the Andrew Yang podcast.
0:04.0	You talk about this stuff a lot.
0:06.0	It's one of the places where it's a passion point for both you and I.
0:09.0	I don't think we should be forced to fit into one of two boxes.
0:13.0	It's something that the founders warned us about.
0:15.0	All of them in one way or another said, watch out for factionalism.
0:19.0	And here we are. We weaker as a nation, weaker on
0:22.5	the world stage, weaker on every issue because because Democrats and Republicans oftentimes spend
0:28.5	more time fighting each other than they do actually trying to solve anyone's problems.
0:46.0	It is my pleasure to welcome to the podcast, fellow Brown University graduate and Democratic candidate for governor of the great state of Iowa. Rob Sand, welcome, Rob. How you doing, Andrew?
0:52.4	I was commenting. You look great.
0:55.2	The trail is agreeing with you.
0:57.5	So you and I spent time together when I was running for president.
1:00.3	I joke that I went to Iowa 25 times.
1:03.8	And so I feel, you know, like a lot of affection for the state.
1:09.5	And I remember running for a president during the summer in Iowa,
1:14.1	going to the state fair, crisscrossing. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of, it's a great place to
1:19.9	live and raise a family as you're doing, but it's also a great place to campaign. Yeah, it's fun.
1:25.5	I think Iowans, in part because of the caucus tradition,
1:30.2	have a level of interest in politics that you don't often see and they're willing to come out
1:34.7	and talk to people and listen to them and kind of give them a shake, give them a fair shake.
1:39.3	And I've been doing a lot of Iowa elected officials will do the 99 county tour. I do I do 100 stops,
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