It's a terrible clickbait catchphrase, but you grew up in a chess cult.

Yeah, okay. Here we go.

The Church of Immoral Consciousness was founded by Stephen and Trina Camp.

Ultimately, the leaders of the collective kind of decided everything about people's lives.

How old were you?

Maybe 11 or 12. Chests started to be weaponized against me as my purpose.

Was at one point he started joking with me like Danny, which is more important, the king of your

mother? I would not speak another word to my mom for seven years.

Now we're going to go into territory I've never talked about.

At one point, and this is where the story gets really wild.

Oh, this is where the story gets wild?

Hey there, it's me, Rain Wilson, and I want to dig into the human experience.

I want to have conversations about a spiritual revolution.

Let's get deep with our favorite thinkers, friends, and entertainers about life, meaning, and idiocy.

Welcome to the Soul Boom podcast.

Danny Wrench, welcome to Soul Boom. Thanks for having me.

I am going to say something to you. I have never, ever, ever with the 70 guests we've had so far,

been as excited to have a conversation with someone ever yeah i don't even know what to say to that but thank you first of all let's start with chess

you have an outrageous tale to tell and we'll get to it but let's start with the game of chess what is

chess is it a sport is it an art form is it it a game? It's funny. I've been asked this

question so much. Obviously, as chess.com has grown, and now we even get asked, is it an esport?

Right? We get asked all of those things, right? Or is it content? Is it streaming content? Right?

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