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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

"Escape the Echo Chamber" with Stephanie Lepp

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.6863 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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What would it look like if we could escape the phony choice between strident positions and find a third way? Not a "compromise". Not a squishy midpoint betweren any two extremes. But a genuinely new way of looking at an issue, informed by the best of all sides? Instead of hunting for the worst in our opponents' positions, what if we could harness the best?

That's the mission of the journalist Stephanie Lepp, a producer whose new series of short videos, Faces of X, demonstrates what she's up to. She and Josh wrestle with partisanship, social media, both-sidesism, ideological capture, and how we all might think more freely in this toxic election cycle.

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Goody, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. I hope you're feeling okay. I hope

0:08.1

you've got your head on straight. I hope you're not just like a cat in front of a laser pointer,

0:12.7

constantly following the jingling jangling keys that the media are trying to throw at you

0:16.7

this election cycle. Today we have a balm for you. We have an opportunity for you. We have a vision

0:22.3

of what the future could look like, what conversations could look like, what civilization could look

0:27.2

like if we were all a little less hunkered down in our rival camps. I know this is not exactly

0:33.0

the moment at which everyone wants to hear some big kumbaya message of comedy when all you're

0:39.9

trying to do is stop the other side from gaining power and ruining the world.

0:44.5

But there's an insight to be had that Stephanie Lepp today's guest brings to us, which is

0:51.2

worthwhile.

0:52.4

And the insight is this.

0:54.0

The alternative to the phony choice between any

0:57.1

two strident positions is not just some squishy compromise, some midpoint between two extremes.

1:04.7

There can actually be a genuinely new way of looking at every controversial issue, informed by the best of all sides.

1:14.3

And if instead of hunting for the worst in our opponent's positions, we decided to harness the

1:19.6

best, we would actually be able to create something new, something new that maybe a quorum of people

1:26.1

from the centre could use to construct something more beautiful

1:30.8

politically. That may sound extremely airy-fairy, and it is when I put it like that, but Stephanie

1:36.0

puts it into practice on, of all places, X, Twitter, perhaps the least conducive place to nuance.

1:42.4

And this is a fabulous conversation about her project, which is called Faces of X.

1:47.4

She's a producer.

1:48.6

It's a short series of short videos.

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