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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

2016 ELECTION TIME CAPSULE: Hear Josh's Reaction to Trump's First Election Win, with David Plotz

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

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🗓️ 1 November 2024

⏱️ 21 minutes

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At 11:00 a.m. on November 9th, 2016, the day after Donald Trump's surprise victory over Hillary Clinton, a shell-shocked Josh sat down with Slate's former editor David Plotz, the co-host of the Slate Political Gabfest, to share their analysis of what might happen. This is that conversation.

 

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0:00.0

Gahe, humans. We have a treat for you today. Man, is this a treat? I loved listening to this.

0:08.4

I say I loved listening to this rather than recording this because I don't recall much about recording it since I recorded it the day after Trump won his first presidential election race in 2016.

0:26.1

Barack Obama was still the president of the United States, and the first person who I

0:29.8

spoke to after Trump's victory, when we were all in a state of shock, I was still living in

0:35.6

New York City, was David Plotz.

0:39.0

He's the guy I went to try to process what we were all feeling and to try to prognosticate

0:45.4

about what a first Trump term might look like.

0:49.2

You just have to sort of cast your mind back to the inevitability of the Hillary victory and the sense that the United

0:55.6

States was just on this sort of progressive path to realize how blindsided we were. And this is

1:02.8

absolutely fascinating. This is a time capsule. I mean, look, I don't want to talk it up too much.

1:07.4

Maybe you'll hate it. But in listening for what we got right and what we got

1:13.3

wrong in our prognostications, it's super useful in understanding what we might be getting right

1:18.4

and might be getting wrong today. It's fascinating to hear us talk about Putin and about Eastern

1:24.3

Europe and almost to be dismissive of the possibility of Putin taking another gamble

1:29.7

on Ukraine. It's fascinating for us to speculate about what Trump might do with the economy

1:34.4

and whether he might support, you know, rural and regional workers. Anyway, it's like you've been

1:41.3

given a time portal to parachute back into the minds of where we were

1:45.9

immediately after the first time Trump was elected.

1:48.7

I don't know what's going to happen on Tuesday, but I just thought amidst all of the cacophony

1:54.8

of everything else that you're hearing, you might want to take a breath and you might

1:58.1

want to just hear something a little bit left field.

2:00.3

This has nothing to do

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