Escalators, known for being in malls, famous for being in airports.

Nobody thinks much about them, so let's have some fun.

Let's find out why escalators are secretly incredibly fascinating. Hey there, folks, welcome to a whole new podcast episode, a podcast all about why being alive is more interesting than people think it is.

My name is Alec Schmidt, and I'm not alone. Katie is out this week, and I'm joined by a wonderful returning guest.

You've seen his comedy writing places like college humor and the New Yorker. Andy is the host and creator of the wonderful new sports podcast, Thrill of Defeet.

Please welcome back, Dan Hopper. Hey, Dan. Hey, thanks for having me on, Alex.

It's such a treat. It's been a while and I'm glad you're here. Yeah. And thanks for,

people should really check out Dan's podcast. He very kindly had me on an episode about the Chicago

White Sox along with Jimmy Pardo.

And it's a show about like getting to understand the fan experience for specific sports teams, which is a thing you wonder about, you know?

It's great.

Yes.

Yeah, it's a sports podcast for non-hardcore sports fans.

If you just want to learn about the pain that every fan base goes through. And

Alex and Jimmy were happy enough to talk about theirs. It was great. It was a treat. I also,

I really love the Seattle Supersonics episode and it has prepared me for the potential eventuality

that the White Sox move in a few years. It's helping me cope in advance possibly, you know,

so it's good. Well, I'm glad. Yeah, it's been a little

more therapeutic. I just thought it'd be funny and like, you know, everyone's last, but it's really

been almost kind of therapeutic. People like getting out there 30 years of frustration on, on the

air. And I'm like, oh, cool. I mean, this works too. Still, still good. We all need everything, you know? Yeah. And thanks for being on this one. Also, big thanks to a couple listeners, court jester on the Discord. Also, Lynette T on the Discord. They are two of a few people who've really pushed for this topic in a wonderful and fun way. So thank you, folks. And it was a poll

winner. We get to make an episode. And Dan, what is your relationship to or opinion of the topic

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