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Lawfare Presents: The Aftermath

Escalation Ep 7: Boiling The Frog

Lawfare Presents: The Aftermath

Lawfare

Trump, News & Politics, January 6, Politics, Lawfare, Insurrection

4.85.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In the season finale of Escalation, Anastasiia Lapatina and Yulia Tymoshenko recount Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February, 2022. The western world is shocked, and US President Joe Biden and the US Congress attempt to send weapons to Ukraine to fight back. But fundamentally different perspectives on the fight will emerge and lead to tensions that leave Ukraine's fate uncertain, and its relationship with The United States in jeopardy.

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0:00.0

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0:30.5

Previously on Escalation.

0:32.6

If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.

0:35.7

Oh, son of a bitch, got fired.

0:38.3

This became enmeshed in American politics.

0:42.3

Some of the preparations for that phone call

0:45.3

did send up some warning signals to me that this was not quite right.

0:49.3

My call was perfect.

0:51.3

The president yesterday of Ukraine said there was no pressure put on him whatsoever, none

0:56.5

whatsoever. My worst fear of how our Ukraine policy could play out was playing out.

1:02.7

When I understand that right now, it's elections, different camps trying to manipulate

1:06.5

around Ukraine.

1:10.5

It's late November of 2021.

1:13.6

Just a few months before the world, as I know it, will change forever.

1:18.6

As the Russians keep surging their troops at Ukraine's borders,

1:22.8

one American journalist gets a call.

1:25.5

I get a phone call from a White House official who says,

1:31.6

we have some intelligence about Russia's possible invasion of Ukraine and we want to give it to you.

1:38.2

And the first thing is I think to myself, oh, shit. That's Shane Harris, a national security reporter for the Atlantic, and before that, the

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