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Ukraine lost control over a number of agencies,

basically decomposing the Ukrainian ability to resist.

You know, when his thugs went out there and beat up kids.

He has the blood of our children, the blood of students, the blood of youth on his hand.

Did you think he would be over quickly?

I was packing for two weeks.

Now it's ten and a half years.

So, do you know who the meeting is with today?

Who you guys are meeting with?

I don't know.

I don't know at all.

I think it's somebody from Congress or Senate, so...

That's the voice of Tadas Stoller, who's talking to our executive producer Max.

Tadas was a soldier in the Ukrainian army.

But on this cloudy day, in September 2024,

Tadas is in Washington, D.C., walking into the Hart office building.

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