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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the the OnScript podcast. This is Matt

Lynch coming to you from Regent College in Vancouver. Just as we start out, I want to say a special

thanks to Jason Stark and Taylor Terzac for producing OnScript. They do a lot behind the scenes,

and we wouldn't be able to do this without them. So thanks so much to both of them.

Also, a quick heads up that there's some swearing in this episode. It's not our sort of normal

practice, but there is a bit in this one, and so I just wanted to mention that in case you

wanted to be aware. All right, thanks so much for listening and enjoy the episode.

Hello, friends. Welcome to OnScript. This is Amy Brown Hughes, a co-host for the podcast with

Matt Lynch, Matt Bates, Aaron Heim, Drew Johnson, Chris Tilling, and Jules Martinez-Olivieri.

Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Aaron Raffity, cultural anthropologist, Presbyterian

pastor, an ethnographic researcher who has studied foster families in China, Christian congregations

in the United States, and people with disabilities around the world. Aaron teaches and

researches at Princeton Theological Seminary, Princeton University, and the center of theological

inquiry. Aaron is the author of two books, families we need, disability, Princeton University, and the Center of Theological Inquiry.

Erin is the author of two books, Families We Need, Disability, Abandonment, and Foster Care Resistance in Contemporary China with Rutgers in 2022.

She had a busy year because the book we'll be talking about today came out last year as well, from inclusion to justice, disability, ministry, and congregational leadership with Baylor University Press.

This book is wonderful for many reasons. I appreciated the clear laying out of the big problem with something that many of us might not realize is a problem. Aaron's transparency as a researcher,

the thoughtful theological engagement with scripture, the clear ramifications for ministry practice, and most of all, I'm deeply appreciative to all of the people who participated in this study, especially those of disabled people who helped me see worship and ministry in a whole new way. I'm excited for our listeners to hear you talk about this book. Welcome, Erin.

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