Folks, you are listening to an encore presentation of the Eric Mattaxas show.

We only played the greatest stuff for our encores.

Here it is.

Hey there, folks.

Welcome back.

This is the Eric Mataxas show. This is the show where I get to have

amazing conversations with amazing guests. One of them is here now. I'm continuing my

conversation with Casey Diaz. He's the author of The Shot Caller, A Latino Gangbanger's Miraculous

Escape from a Life of Violence to a New Life in Christ. Casey, this story is crazy, beautiful,

amazing, and it's true. So you're telling me now, the guy comes in there to kill you,

and he can't do it, and you lead him to faith right there, the man with a shank in his hand.

Now, I would think that in the prison world, they're going to put a hit out on his life,

and they're going to put somebody else to kill you. So, I mean, what happens that day, the next day?

Well, for several years, two years, actually, there's these little notes that we used to write

when we were put a hit or we needed something to be moved from one prison yard to another.

They were called kites.

And so I started to use that system to witness to other gang leaders in there.

And shortly after that, one of the founding members of MS-13 came to Christ through one of those kites.

And then another gang leader from a gang in South Central, Los Angeles, came to Christ.

So there was about four or five of us that started to really witness out there.

And we were going through the ringer for two years.

But after those two years, over 200 inmates at New Folsom State Prison came to Christ.

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