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Erica Jong and daughter Molly Jong-Fast reflect on 'Fear of Flying'

NPR's Book of the Day

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Arts, Books

4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

This year, the novel Fear of Flying — which broke all sorts of unwritten rules around marriage, sex, and women's bodily autonomy when first published — turned 50 years old. So for today's episode, we dug up a 1973 interview with author Erica Jong and NPR's Steven Banker where Jong speaks frankly about the constraints women felt at the time about making art, and how their husbands would be perceived as a result. Then, NPR's Sarah McCammon speaks with Jong's daughter, Molly Jong-Fast, about the legacy of Fear of Flying, second-wave feminism and the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaung. The novel Fear of Flying turned 50 this year.

0:07.9

In case you don't know, it was written by Erica Zhang, and it was super controversial when it first came out,

0:12.8

because its main character was a woman who treated sex cavalierly. You know, she wanted it, she sought it out,

0:18.9

she had a bunch of it. To put it glibly,

0:21.3

she treated sex kind of like a stereotypical guy in 1973. The book was written in the middle

0:27.4

of the sexual revolution and the proliferation of the birth control pill, so it just captured

0:32.2

a certain group of women going through a significant transformation that we still feel today. But the thing about the book

0:39.5

is that it was pretty transparently autobiographical and it had an impact on Erica Zhang's life.

0:45.8

In a bit, we'll hear from her daughter, the writer and podcaster Molly Zhang Fast, talking about

0:50.4

what it was like growing up in the shadow of the book. But first, we dug up NPR's

0:54.8

interview with Erica Zhang from when the book was published, and she talked to reporter Stephen

0:59.1

Banker about how concerned she was about how her husband's family would react to the book.

1:04.7

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1:11.3

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1:15.8

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1:17.8

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1:21.6

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1:25.1

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1:31.0

Since we're going back in time a bit, I just want to set the scene. It's 1973 and author

1:35.8

Erica Zhang is married to a psychiatrist. Now, like I said before, Fear of Flying is pretty

1:41.4

openly autobiographical and it involves having sex outside of your marriage.

1:46.7

And Erica Zhang starts off this interview with Stephen Banker talking about the very idea of marriage.

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