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Welcome to What You're Gonna Love Me.

The podcast where we open the eyes, the ears, and the hearts of anyone who has judged or been judged.

Well, hopefully. I'm your host, Katie Maloney.

Hello, everyone. Happy Halloween weekend. This is one of my favorite times of the year, and I have a really special episode today, because I have two really badass women who I was lucky enough to meet almost a year ago to the day when we were, yes, when we were in Salem, and we got to go to house switch.

And we did like a walking tour and we did terror workshop, and I just was like really feeling in my element. So I have on Erica Thelman and Melissa and I am in two badass women from Salem, badass witches. I will. So welcome.

Thank you.

I'm going to be here. This is our first podcast together. So we're very excited.

You really are like a power couple.

Thank you. You got powers. So I just kind of want to start really at the beginning with you. And I don't know if it's your introduction to be a cult in the spiritual realm or what your first kind of experiences were with it or what drew you to it.

I definitely have been interested in the cult and witches and witchcraft. I mean, for a far back really as I can remember, like my favorite, what do my favorite movies and I was the kind of the worst which and like I just wanted to be in a witch pool was like a cat in my statue.

And then you know, I got older and like to read I was really drawn to the ball, you know, tarot and stuff like that. And so then when I was a teenager and the craft came out.

And I just like I love the aesthetic. I love the whole idea of like, just being powers. I love like I just I love the girl game of it all.

And so that kind of really solidified like okay, like I am into which is into which draft. I would definitely like a teenage weekend.

But I think like the important thing about that sort of a background is that I was kind of turned off by with because just as a kid and like a working class suburb of Illinois, I could never like find all of the different like tools and candles and herbs and

stuff like that that you know with comfort, I do so. So I sort of fell away from it for a while and

you know, so it's ended up happening now that I have my storehouse which is that I really try to you know give my customers

kind of witchcraft where you don't have to get so specific and you don't have to really have any tools if you don't have any available to you.

But that sort of jumps ahead. So basically then I ended up studying which is a witchcraft and brabs wool. So that is when Dr. Salem was for brabs wool.

And then I like to joke that I opened the store because I ran out of jobs to quit because that is kind of the honest

truth of it all. The academic job market was really what I thought it would be when I went into grad school. So when I came out it was you know

pretty weak and you know eventually that a few years later I opened the shop and it's been you know quite a ride and it happened to be you know it's

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