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Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Eric Topol: AI Doctors, Medicine's Future, and The Delta Variant (#173)

Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Brian Keating

Science, Physics, Natural Sciences

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2021

⏱️ 56 minutes

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#AI #FutureofMedicine #EricTopol Dr. Eric Topol M.D. is a Physician-Scientist, Author, Editor and is The Gary & Mary West Endowed Chair of Innovative Medicine, and the Executive VP, Scripps Research. We discussed the meaning of life, ways for Artificial Intelligence to improve patient outcomes…and concomitantly, benefit physicians too. We explored the ethical imperatives incumbent on doctors— is it ok to exaggerate medical benefits/risks to incentivize greater patient participation. We closed with his concerns about Elon Musk's long-term space travel from a medical perspective, including his thoughts on the Kelly twin astronaut study. Support our Sponsors LinkedIn Jobs! Use this link to post your first job ad for FREE LinkedIn.com/impossible biOptimizers for better sleep https://magbreakthrough.com/impossible 00:00 Introduction 00:05:14 Why is teaching resistant to change? 00:11:44 How do you handle authority bias? 00:15:26 What do you think of the possibility of artificial "life"? 00:19:44 What is deep empathy? 00:22:40 Why is there a global physician burnout crisis? @Ali Abdaal ‘s Survey of Disenchanted Doctors 00:25:28 The problem with the unsustainable healthcare workforce. 00:31:44 About virus genomic sequencing and the Delta variant. 00:41:10 What new, non-invasive sensors for acquiring patient data may become available? 00:49 54 Final thoughts on COVID Get Eric’s answers to my Thrilling Three Existebttial questions Please join my mailing list; just click here 👉 http://briankeating.com/mailing_list.php 📝 Dr. Topol's research is on individualized medicine, using the genome and digital technologies to understand each person at the biologic, physiologic granular level to determine appropriate therapies and prevention. An example is the use of pharmacogenomics and his research on clopidogrel (Plavix). By determining the reasons for why such a large proportion of people do not respond to this medication, we can use alternative treatment strategies to prevent blood clots. In his latest book, Deep Medicine, Dr. Topol explores how AI will empower physicians and revolutionize patient care Medicine has become inhuman, to disastrous effect. The doctor-patient relationship--the heart of medicine--is broken: doctors are too distracted and overwhelmed to truly connect with their patients, and medical errors and misdiagnoses abound. In Deep Medicine, Dr. Topol reveals how artificial intelligence can help. Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXH_moPhfkqCk6S3b9RWuw/join Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/drbriankeating And please join my mailing list to get resources and enter giveaways to win a FREE copy of my book (and more) http://briankeating.com/mailing_list.php 📝 🎥 🎥 Watch my most popular videos🎥 🎥 Frank Wilczek https://youtu.be/3z8RqKMQHe0?sub_confirmation=1 Weinstein and Wolfram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI0AZ4Y4Ip4?sub_confirmation=1 Sheldon Glashow: https://youtu.be/a0_iaWgxQtA?sub_confirmation=1 🏄‍♂️ Find me on Twitter at https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating 🔥 Find me on Instagram at https://instagram.com/DrBrianKeating 📖 Buy my book LOSING THE NOBEL PRIZE: http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA 🔔 Subscribe for more great content https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1 ✍️Detailed Blog posts here: https://briankeating.com/blog.php 📧Join my mailing list: http://briankeating.com/mailing_list.php 👪Join my Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/losingthenobelprize 🎙️Please subscribe, rate, and review the INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE Podcast on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-impossible/id1169885840?mt=2 🎙️Listen on all other platforms: https://wavve.link/into A production of http://imagination.ucsd.edu/ Artwork by Sloan Sobie Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/drbriankeating Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

0:07.0

And today we are very fortunate to be joined by a renowned scientist and also a local

0:17.1

local San Diego who is benefiting as I am from the end of May gray June gloom

0:21.8

July we didn't fry. It's finally clear, it's August 2nd, and I'm joined by

0:27.2

Dr. Eric Topel. How are you today, Dr. Topel?

0:30.0

Ryan, and I'm so great to be with you. Thank you for having me with you.

0:34.0

I have a ophology for years, obviously you're renowned, scientists, cardiologist,

0:38.8

executive vice president at Scripps Institution, which is not to be confused with Scripps Institute of Oceanography. I made that mistake in the past.

0:48.1

We had on

0:49.8

Luke Allegheny who is at Scripps Institution works on origin of life.

0:53.8

We talked about origin of life, primo levy.

0:56.1

This is Life Month on the Into the Impossible podcast.

0:59.1

But before we get into all these physics and kind of nerd out on physical sciences. I want to do what I do,

1:05.8

Eric, with all my guests who write books and you've written at least three that I have read.

1:09.7

I like to play a game called Judging Books by their cover because what other prior do you have to go on when you see a book?

1:16.2

And so I want to ask you this book, Deep Medicine, I have your other book, The Patient will see you now in another room, but this book, Deep Medicine, what is the origin of the title and the subtitle and the cover design, which seems to have a menacing Android.

1:30.0

Right, well, Deep medicine was easy because this is about how deep learning the subtype of AI will affect the future of medicine and health care.

1:42.0

And, you know, I think in many ways one of my influencers was Gary Casperov who had a book deep thinking

1:51.6

and it's a natural D it's deep everything, as you know, Brian,

1:55.5

all the different methods and acronyms,

1:59.9

everything surrounding the deep learning era is deep.

2:02.8

And what's the play on words here is that rather than everybody

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