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Go, go, go, go, go, no, go, no! Folks, welcome to Hour 2. I continue my conversation with Scott Phelps,

who's the executive director of the Abstinance

and Marriage Education Partnership.

And you know, it's funny, Scott,

we're talking about some really basic stuff, but the culture has gone so

crazy over the decades. I mean, the most normal thing in the world is for young

men and young women to have sexual urges to have romantic longings and to say I want to find that person that God would have me unite with in marriage for life and we want to have

children we want to raise a family it's so beautiful and it's so natural and that message has been denigrated and denigrated mocked

as though that's for rubs.

What you ought to do is just have sex with as many people as you can do

whatever you want and yeah maybe at some point get married but who even cares it's

just become so confusing for so many people and you know and I know and many people know

Marriage is is God's plan for most people sex within marriage is always God's plan for sex.

But what I even find actually is many evangelicals,

many people who say, oh, I'm an evangelical Christian,

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