Eric Metaxas and Martin Shaw: Discovering the True Myth
Socrates in the City
Socrates in the City
4.7 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 20 April 2026
⏱️ 72 minutes
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What are the stories that make up your life? In our newest Socrates in the Studio episode, Socrates in the City founder and host Eric Metaxas sits down with writer, poet, and mythographer Martin Shaw for a conversation that is as searching as it is spellbinding. Shaw’s latest book, Liturgies of the Wild, traces the astonishing and often unbelievable tales that have marked his own journey—from a 101-day immersion in oral storytelling to his unexpected homecoming in the Orthodox Church. Together, Eric and Martin explore the sacred threads that run through storytelling and the way ancient tales continue to speak into modern restlessness. This expansive and captivating interview reveals the surprising ways our lives are woven together by narrative and the One True Myth at the heart of them all.
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| 0:00.0 | Now you and I, we both love C.S. Lewis. And you remember, Lewis says something about you may get to a point in your life when you're grown up enough to understand a fairy tale. |
| 0:11.0 | Why do we care, which we do? Why do we care about stories? Why do we tell these stories? Even the idea of myth is so fascinating because we can tell stories, but the depth |
| 0:24.3 | of some of these folktales, these myths, it seems otherworldly. |
| 0:29.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:30.3 | Where do you suppose that comes from? |
| 0:32.3 | Storytelling and myth is about symbols, it is about metaphors, it isn't about getting to the point necessarily, |
| 0:40.3 | but you can imagine for my Christian family, they speak a slightly different tone and they're like, |
| 0:46.3 | are you telling us you have become a Christian? Is that clear enough for you? And so then I had to say, do you know what? |
| 0:56.1 | The reality is I haven't become a Christian. |
| 0:59.4 | I've realized I was probably a Christian all along. |
| 1:01.6 | Just a very, very dreadful example of one. |
| 1:05.4 | As we say in Orthodoxy of all sinners I am the first. |
| 1:11.6 | Thank you. of all sinners I am the first. I don't stop. |
| 1:16.6 | Thank you. |
| 1:19.6 | Wow, we have to sit. |
| 1:21.6 | I have to speak sitting. |
| 1:23.6 | Martin, pretend you're not here because I'm going to introduce you. |
| 1:25.6 | I can't hear a word. |
| 1:26.6 | I wanted to come in dramatically. |
| 1:29.7 | My goodness, my name's Eric Pantaxis. |
| 1:31.5 | I'm the host of Sopides in the city. |
| 1:34.2 | And I am so excited about this conversation, but I don't want to tell you about that. |
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