Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Koppelman. Thanks for listening. I'm really excited to have today's guest, Eric Heiser here, talked to. We've been trying to get this going for a long time.

And in a, we have a very modern age friendship.

Yeah.

Because we've known each other online

in a real way for like nine years or something like that.

Yeah, something incredible.

But I think this is the first time we shook hands.

Yeah.

Right here.

Yeah. It's awesome. Great.

Well, thanks for coming in.

Great to have you.

Are you in for Comic-Con? I am, yeah. Yeah, I've been doing some

comic books for Valiant and something having out there to pour them out. Well you are a real, you

know, this show when I started it, this podcast, you know, I was so interested in the line, you know, I called it the moment because I'm interested in these inflection points, these moments, high, low moments in people's lives,

how they press on after either a great success or in a huge low period.

And your journey over the last few years and convices all of it, I think, in a really fascinating way, man.

But first, can I just say, can someone just, can you just like fix your Wikipedia right now?

Because it still says best known.

You know what I mean?

It still says best known for

nightmare on Elm Street remake and then like three lines later

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