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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Eric Garcetti on the lessons of Los Angeles

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2018

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

There’s been a lot of talk about the coming of majority-minority America — the point, projected for roughly 2045, when there will no longer be any racial or ethnic group that makes up a majority of the United States. But there are plenty of places in America where this has already happened. Los Angeles is one of them. LA has about 4 million people, making it more populous than 23 states, and a demography in rapid flux. Non-Hispanic whites make up about 30 percent of the population, while Hispanics and Latinos make up 47 percent, and African Americans make up 10 percent. Eric Garcetti is the mayor of LA. He’s its first Jewish mayor and its second Mexican-American mayor. He was reelected in 2017 with a stunning 81 percent of the vote. And he’s openly considering a run for president in 2020. If Garcetti does jump into the race, he’ll likely do so based on two core ideas: that there’s a better way to talk about and govern amid diversity than either Donald Trump or the Democrats have shown, and that Americans are primed for a manager who makes running the government their core objective, rather than fighting the culture wars. In this conversation, Garcetti and I talk about what he’s learned governing a majority-minority polity, why he thinks national identity is crucial amid rising diversity, his political vison’s central tenant of “belonging,” the roots of LA’s homelessness crisis, whether paving streets is sexy, and much more. Garcetti offers a different vision of where the Democratic Party should go next — one based much more on the lessons of California than backlash to Trump. It’s worth hearing. Recommended books: Stone, Paper, Knife by Marge Piercy Ficciones by Jorge Luis Borges What It Takes by Richard Ben Cramer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm not saying we haven't had these dark chapters, but do we want to write a dark chapter in 2018?

0:05.1

It's a vocative of our worst moments as a nation?

0:20.0

Hello, welcome to the Azur Clancho on the Vox Media podcast network.

0:23.8

First off, I apologize if the sound on this intro is a little bit walkie.

0:28.4

I'm recording this on a cell phone on the road.

0:31.0

For reasons it will become very clear in a moment, but don't worry.

0:33.9

The interview, this episode itself, it sounds great.

0:36.8

We use real microphones and everything.

0:39.2

You're going to love it.

0:40.8

Okay, without housekeeping out of the way, let me change emotional registers real sharply.

0:47.4

Here's what I take to be the central question of American politics in the coming years.

0:52.4

How do you hold together, much as governed, a country undergoing as much demographic

0:58.0

changes as a row? In 2013, America passed a milestone.

1:01.7

A majority of infants under three were non-white.

1:04.6

The Census Bureau thinks the whole country is going to look that way by 2045 will become,

1:08.8

as they say, a majority minority country.

1:11.1

And it's not just race.

1:13.1

The percentage of foreign-born Americans is nearing a record high.

1:16.4

The percentage of non-religious Americans has been rising for decades.

1:20.2

America is changing and it's changing fast.

1:22.9

It is changing faster than it has at other points.

1:25.6

And people feel that. They don't always know how they feel it.

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