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Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show with your host, Eric Mataxis.

Hey there folks, some of you saw me recently talking about my book, Is Atheism Dead.

I was on Tucker Carlson's program. And on the program, I said that I had just been reading a book.

I couldn't remember the title, the title is Animal Algorithms.

The subtitle is Evolution and the Mysterious Origin of Ingenious Instincts.

What I said on Tucker's program, which I'll repeat now, was that it's one of the most amazing

books I've ever read. And if you ever needed proof that there isn't the ghost of a chance

that all animal life evolved through random mutations, this is, you know, front and center.

It is truly one of the most amazing things I have read. I said, wouldn't it be great to get the

author on the program? And you know, whenever, whenever you, you want to get the author on the program,

you're afraid somebody's gonna say, oh, I'm sorry, he passed away in 1946. That's not going to be

possible. Well, in this case, it's very possible. He's very much alive and well. And he is the author

of animal algorithms and my guest today, Eric Castle, or is it Kasell? Welcome to the program.

Thanks, Eric. Yeah, it is Castle. Castle. That's great to be with me. Your book is a big deal.

And I, anything published by Discovery, I'm already excited about. But what you talk about in

this book, it's a little difficult for me to describe. So I'll let you take a crack at it first.

But before we get into what, what the book is about, what is your background? If somebody says to

you other than writing this book, what do you do? Because you have a kind of a complex history.

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