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The Unmistakable Creative Podcast

Eric Barker: The Science of Relationships and Why Playing Well with Others Matters More Than You Think

The Unmistakable Creative Podcast

Srinivas Rao

Society & Culture

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Eric Barker, bestselling author of Barking Up the Wrong Tree and Plays Well with Others, reveals what decades of social science research says about relationships, friendship, love, and meaning. From his journey through Hollywood screenwriting to the video game industry to running one of the most-read personal development blogs, Eric explains his obsession with translating peer-reviewed research into clear, entertaining, actionable insights. He breaks down why so many questions about happiness and connection have already been answered by science but locked away in ivory towers and how making this knowledge accessible became his life work. This conversation explores the frameworks that govern human connection and why relationship skills might be the ultimate meta-skill.

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0:00.0

As you probably notice, this month, we're bringing you our Life of Purpose series and revisiting

0:04.6

some of our most transformative episodes. Tune in to explore expert insights and practical

0:09.4

strategies on help, performance, and community well-being, all aimed at helping you achieve

0:14.4

personal and professional fulfillment. If you sign up for the newsletter, you'll not only get

0:18.5

recaps of the key ideas in each interview, but at the end of the series, you'll receive our free Life of Purpose ebook.

0:24.7

What you have to do is go to UnmistakableCreative.com slash LifePurpose. Again, that's

0:28.9

unmistakablecreative.com slash life purpose.

0:36.2

I'm Sreeny Rao, and this is the Unmistakable Creative Podcast, where you get a window into the stories and insights of the most innovative and creative minds who started movements, built thriving businesses, written bestselling books, and created insanely interesting art.

0:49.6

For more, check out our 500 episode archive at UnmistakableCreative.com.

0:57.1

Eric, welcome to the Unmistakable Creative.

0:59.0

Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

1:00.5

It's great to be here, man.

1:02.0

It is my pleasure to have you here.

1:03.7

So you have a new book out called Plays of All With Others, which, as I was telling you,

1:08.3

is probably my number one book recommendation for the year for

1:12.0

anybody who's listening by far one of the most interesting books I have read and we will get

1:16.8

into it but based on the content of the book and the subject matter I wanted to start by asking

1:21.0

you what social group were you a part of in high school and how did that end up impacting

1:24.6

the choices that you've made with your life and your career? Interesting question.

1:28.3

I definitely was part of the outsiders.

1:30.4

Not total nerd, not the got kids, just the outside little group.

1:35.5

And definitely wasn't one of the cool kids.

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