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Contact To Show in hour one we played my remarks at St. Michael's Anglican Church that's in Charleston, South Carolina one of the most historic churches in one of the most historic cities just

evidently the Reverend Al Zadeh is the director there. He let me talk for a while then we did some Q&A and so in hour two we're going to continue playing that because I did a lot of talking and here it is.

All of us understand that there's certain rules right the Constitution says I can't do this and you're like well but I want to.

Well you can't we have rules God has rules and the issue of life I mean this is where we have failed in the evangelical church I think sometimes we get so focused on scriptures that we forget what the Catholics are really good at is the bigger picture and the idea of natural law and you know because just because there's not a verse on abortion and we you know we all find our verses on abortion but I'm just saying that that's not how God works God's laws in his will.

God's laws in his will go beyond scripture verses is the whole council of scripture and the whole council of scripture makes it very clear that every human being is a human being for whom Jesus died and we simply do not have the right to take the life that's it.

You can do anything you want but you need to know that God doesn't give us that right so when people couch these things in terms of choice these are euphemisms right I mean it's like you know putting down a dog you say we put him down we didn't blow his brains out we put him down when we talk about

euthanizing someone you what do you mean murdering no euthanizing someone we use these terms God says life is sacred human life is sacred and there's just there's just no way around it and if somebody says well that's very upsetting to me because they will it's upsetting to me too because there are plenty people that I would love to kill but I can't.

And the fact of the matter is that our emotions cannot get us around I mean you could be miserable and saying how am I going to do this how am I possibly going to have this baby or how is she going to have this baby you don't need to know God knows God will make a way all you know is we don't have the right to take it so if you love women if you love the idea of choice.

You still you still have to deal with this folks and I think the way I would put it maybe is to say that that human being that you think of as not a human being yet you understand many people didn't think blacks were human beings they treated them like animals many people didn't think Jews were human beings they treated them worse than animals they murdered them by the millions human beings often don't understand that every human being is sacred and God's eyes is sacred.

And in history it will always be okay to dehumanize certain groups of human beings it will always be okay and you have to think who am I dehumanizing who am I giving myself my self permission to hate.

It's people maybe that I disagree with politically I disagree with them strongly politically and I hate them and I dehumanize them.

God says you're not allowed to do that if that's your enemy politically pray for your enemy you don't have to agree with them but you can't hate them you can't dehumanize them that's ultimately what abortion is is the ultimate the humanization where we basically say it's not even a human so what's the big deal the problem is it is a human and we're engaging in in sophistry so I've already said I've already said more than I know on that subject so I'll just stop.

Eric thank you and again so much there that we could develop as well and but within that context you and Suzanne working with these issues of pro life and again we don't think of pro life and Manhattan in the same sentence but the gospel is another miracle of the gospel what other bedrock and the question here is what other bedrock outreach ministries that worked in New York City should be transferred here I mean are there things that are not going to be

that every city should be passionate about in in order to then help shape the region I think you know in a way part of what's what's interesting is that in a way there are parallels but things are always changing and even New York today is dramatically different than it was in 1990 or in 2000 and different issues come up so it's it's difficult to to say that but I think the basic things anyway that you can't do that.

So I don't know you can probably think of several and I can comment on them but there's almost anything that you can do I think that we mentioned the arts there are a number of things that people can do with the other things that you can do.

But it comes down to calling everybody has a different calling not everybody is called to work in this or this or this or this and you have to kind of think what is what is God called me to do I mean the socrates in the city thing that I have done I've done it less often just because it's gotten complicated and it's expensive but to be able to have a place where you can bring in speakers and thinkers and have a dialogue and have an interesting conversation that's a huge difference.

That's a huge service to a community of rather sophisticated people who they're hungry for stuff but most of the sophisticated culture in America has been taken over by secular humanist leftism in a way.

It's always been a little bit that way but it's gotten dramatic and I think that people are hungry for something different and I always on my radio program and it's octaves in city certainly I try to bring in people who I don't always agree with them but just to say we're here to have a conversation we're here to help you to think for yourself obviously that's socrates idea that you would ask questions and it sort of forces you to think Jesus of course did that even better than Socrates.

And but he cheated because he had the Holy Spirit but the fact is that that is like a basic thing that bringing in speakers or authors or whatever you've kind of got a nice form here and I think that that is often just a blessing to everybody to people that would never come to a church or come you know but they would come and hear somebody whether it's

a Peter Crave or anybody and they just think huh I've never you know I've never heard anybody like that so that to me that's the one that appeals to me the most obviously.

And to that and let me make a shameless plug if you all feel called to a ministry during through this God corner series text it to us let us know what that ministry is and of course right now we're making a big push for for lawyers especially as we try to reach out to the four corners of our of the law here but one of my favorite questions here

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