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Eric and Donald Trump Jr. Take the Stand

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🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

The two older sons of former President Donald Trump spent Thursday in a New York courtroom testifying in the civil fraud case against them and their father.

The trial accuses the two brothers, as well as their father, of knowingly committing fraud by submitting statements of financial condition that inflated the value of their properties and other assets.

During testimony, Eric and Donald Jr. repeatedly distanced themselves from The Trump Organization's fraudulent financial statements and declarations to banks.

NPR's Andrea Bernstein and Ximena Bustillo report on the trial and what's at stake for The Trump Organization.

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0:00.0

Okay, we're now a month into the civil trial in New York that's put a spotlight on former

0:11.7

president Trump's family business.

0:13.7

And this week, witnesses with a lot on the line have been testifying.

0:18.9

Donald Trump, Jr., taking the witness stand in Lower Manhattan.

0:22.0

All right, he's the first member of the Trump family to testify in the civil fraud trial

0:25.9

accusing the former president and other executives at his company of conspiring to

0:29.9

exaggerate as well.

0:31.6

This is a moment of high stakes for the Trump family with the civil lawsuit in New York.

0:36.3

They're facing a potential $250 million fine and the end of their ability to do business

0:42.9

in New York.

0:43.9

And yesterday.

0:44.9

Now, Donald Jr. has repeatedly attacked this case on social media, calling the trial

0:49.3

a quote, sham and kangaroo court.

0:52.4

And Paris Andrea Bernstein has been following the case and laid out what New York's Attorney

0:56.5

General, Latisha James, is trying to prove.

0:59.5

Aligning in part on Trump's former attorney, Michael Cohen, who has also testified in

1:04.6

this case.

1:05.6

We're now in the fifth week of the trial.

1:07.7

And up to now, we've heard mostly about the ways Donald Trump wanted to pump up values

1:12.1

to get better loans and insurance rates.

1:14.8

As Michael Cohen testified, Trump would say something like, I'm not really worth 4.5

1:20.0

billion.

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