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The Beat with Ari Melber

Epstein Scandal Roars Back on Capitol Hill

The Beat with Ari Melber

Ari Melber, MS NOW

Politics, Government, News, Versant, Ms Now, Daily News, Versant Media

4.64.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Congress grilled Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on the Epstein files, in which he is named over 200 times. MS NOW’s Ari Melber reports and is joined by Nancy Erika Smith, Emily Bazelon, Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Jason Johnson.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Beat. I'm Ari Melbert. And I'm R. We're reporting on Americans revolting against Trump

0:04.5

over these ongoing high prices as he craters to his lowest approval ever amid the war. And the

0:10.9

hypersensitive woes of FBI chief, Cash Patel. He's turned out to be really probably the

0:17.3

largest snowflake in the whole administration as he takes drastic steps to attack

0:21.7

criticism, which actually just tends to be part of the job when you run the FBI. So we have that

0:26.6

story coming up later. And Barack Obama making waves with his star turn on Colbert. You're going to see

0:33.6

some of that here by the end of the hour. It was of interest to many. You'll hear exactly

0:38.5

what he said. But our top story starts right here with that Trump official caught lying about his

0:46.7

visit to Epstein Island. You have Epstein in the foreground and the gentleman in blue behind him.

0:53.8

Howard Lutnik back in the hot seat today,

0:55.7

Congress grilling the Commerce Secretary about those Epstein links and his Epstein lies. He has been

1:02.4

forced to address a lot of it after what was a very unusual law that no one at the time expected

1:08.6

to come out, but it did. We lived through that, and that law

1:12.5

forced out evidence, including the photograph on your TV screen or your YouTube or your phone,

1:18.2

however you're watching us, but wherever you're watching us, that evidence is on your screen.

1:22.3

That's a photograph that they never thought would come out. They never wanted it to come out.

1:26.4

It was only the huge,

1:28.4

unusual pressure that made it come out and contradicted this Trump official's claims.

1:34.8

We now know Lutnik was named over 200 times in the Epstein files. Those are the ones we've seen,

1:39.4

including the emails arranging the very island visit that we just showed you. His assistant relayed, it was nice

1:45.8

seeing people there. And those long secret emails from Lutnik and his team and other Trump allies

1:50.2

like Elon Musk have served to publicly shred those men's past denials. And so, even by the low standards in D.C. today, it was too much. As we showed you in our

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