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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

EPSTEIN PERP GHISLAINE MAXWELL: 'I. AM. NOT. SUICIDAL;' WILL SHE LIVE TO TESTIFY?

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

News, True Crime

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Will Ghislaine Maxwell meet a similar fate as her deceased jet-setting on-and-off lover, Jeffrey Epstein, whose 2019 death was not caught on camera or the footage was not released?

Epstein was found dead with a noose around his neck in a Manhattan jail cell while facing federal charges for sex-trafficking underage girls. During Maxwell's trial, she was portrayed as a "sophisticated predator" who served as Epstein's right hand from at least 1994 to 2004.

Maxwell was found guilty of running a sex-trafficking ring of minors and is currently serving her prison sentence.

Maxwell, the disgraced British socialite, is now willing to talk, but can she be believed, and will her testimony calm the storm that's recently emerging in the Trump Administration over the handling of Epstein files? The disgraced socialite Maxwell allegedly is willing to testify before Congress about Epstein's apparent full client list.

According to published reports, President Trump's name is in the Epstein files; however, this does not mean he did anything wrong. But promising to release files and then not doing so leads some to believe there is a potential cover-up. 

Joining Nancy Grace today:

  • Eric Faddis - Partner at Varner Faddis Elite Legal, Former Felony Prosecutor and Current Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Attorney; Instagram: @e_fad @varnerfaddis; TikTok: @varnerfaddis
  • Dr. Cheryl Arutt - Licensed Clinical and Forensic Psychologist specializing in Trauma Recovery, PTSD and EMDR,  website: askdrcheryl.com,  website: CreativeEMDR.com , IG: @askdrcheryl
  • Robert Crispin -Private Investigator with “Crispin Special Investigations," Former Federal Task Force Officer for the United States Department of Justice [DEA and Miami Field Division], and Former Homicide and Crimes Against Children Investigator; Facebook: Crispin Special Investigations Inc.
  • Joseph Scott Morgan -Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author of "Blood Beneath My Feet" and Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;" X @JoScottForensic
  • Lauren Conlin - Podcaster/Reporter/Host- Co-Host of "PopCrimeTV" on YouTube, Website: primetimecrimeshow.com; X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram: @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube: @PopCrimeTV
  • Sydney Sumner- CRIME STORIES Investigative Reporter

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.8

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:10.7

Epstein Perp.

0:12.2

Jelaine Maxwell says, I, period, am period, not period, suicidal.

0:20.6

Will she live to testify?

0:23.8

I'm Nancy Grace.

0:24.7

This is Crime Stories.

0:25.8

I want to thank you for being with us.

0:27.8

Release the files.

0:29.9

Teams of thousands of documents related to Epstein

0:34.6

are refusing to release.

0:36.5

Thousands and thousands and thousands of pages of files.

0:39.9

They couldn't call it a suicide because it looked too much like a homicide.

0:44.0

Was it suicide or was it murder?

0:46.7

You promised now deliver.

0:49.4

As Jolene Maxwell meets with federal agents, is she one step closer to testifying, testifying to what is in the so-called Epstein files?

1:01.0

For over a year, we were told that those files would be released.

1:06.3

Everything in them, but now stonewalling.

1:10.5

Now, what message does that send to sex attack victims?

1:15.5

What message does that send about our justice system? Well, this is what Pam Bondi, the U.S.

1:23.0

Attorney General, had to say. What you're going to see hopefully tomorrow is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names,

1:31.4

a lot of information, but it's pretty sick what that man did. A source had told me where the documents

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