Okay, everyone. By popular demand, we're doing an all Epstein show today. My besties are all on vacation for

ski week, so I'm taking this on solo. We have three different guests on who all have very different

interpretations and opinions of the Epstein story. Sagar and Jetti from Breaking Points believes that

the Epstein story shows that there is a quote-unquote Epstein class that operates above law

and accountability. He views the story as an indictment of our ruling elites. Michael Tracy is skeptical

about many of the most delicious claims about Epstein and questions whether they meet any kind of

evidentiary standard. He has criticized the media feeding frenzy over what he has called

Epstein mythology.

And finally, Kevin Bass, a citizen journalist who's been tracking the release files and posting

his findings on X, specifically in regards to Reed Hoffman, perhaps the figure in tech most

closely associated with Jeffrey Epstein. Some of it gets heated, but hopefully you'll come

away with new perspectives and great information. I felt like it was important to showcase a range of viewpoints on this

issue. I'm trying to keep an open mind, and I'll describe my own point of view at the end of the show.

And with that, here we go. Sager, let me start with you. What is the import of the arrest of Prince Andrew in the UK this morning. I mean, is this a case of

Show Us the Man and we'll tell you the crime? I mean, obviously it seems kind of coincidental

that he's not being arrested for misconduct in the Epstein affair. He's being arrested on mishandling, I guess, trade secrets or

public documents. So obviously, the timing of this is not coincidental. No, it's certainly not

coincidental, but I do believe that the facts do matter in this case. And unfortunately, you know,

for Prince Andrew, for Lord Mandelson, the former ambassador to the United States from the UK as well, it is pretty clear cut that they did violate their official duties.

We should remember that the crux of this case involving Andrew is not just about some of the accusations that were made, although that is the genesis, let's say, of the investigation and of the interest.

This is about Prince Andrews serving as a UK trade advisor and forwarding non-public

information to Jeffrey Epstein has been released that's currently in the file.

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