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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

EPSTEIN FILES RELEASE HOAX, COULDN'T SLEEP W ADULT WOMEN BC OF 'HEART CONDITION'

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime, News

3.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Jeffrey Epstein's former associate and convicted sex trafficker, Ghislaine Maxwell, makes a shocking claim during a recent interview with the Department of Justice.

She says Epstein told her he had heart problems, and those heart conditions prevented him from regular sexual intercourse. Her statement highly contradicts victim testimony about Epstein's weekly nonconsensual abuse of underage girls.

Maxwell continues in the interview that former President Bill Clinton was her friend, not Jeffrey. 
Epstein’s, and Clinton never received a ‘massage’ in Epstein’s company.When asked if President Trump had done anything inappropriate with masseuses, Maxwell replied, "Absolutely never, in any context."She denies knowing whether masseuses from Mar-a-Lago's spa ended up giving Jeffrey Epstein private massages.When asked if she herself recruited any for Epstein, Maxwell states, "I've never recruited a masseuse from Mar-a-Lago for that, as far as I remember." Maxwell also claims there is no list or little black book of famous people who were provided minors for the purposes of sex trafficking. 

Virginia Guiffre’s family and other Epstein victims have slammed the government’s decision to 
interview Ghislaine Maxwell and release the tapes, saying Maxwell was passed a microphone 
and given a platform to ‘rewrite history.’ 

Joining Nancy Grace today:

  • Troy Slaten - Los Angeles Criminal Defense Attorney, Slaten Lawyers; X @TroySlaten
  • Dani Pinter - Senior Vice President and Director of Law Center, National Center on Sexual Exploitation
  • Dr. Bethany Marshall -  Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
  • Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", @JoScottForensic
  • Tisa Tells - Pop Culture Investigator & Commentator and Host of 'Tisa Tells' on YouTube; YouTube: @TisaTells, Instagram & TikTok: @TisaTellss
  • Sydney Sumner - Crime Stories Investigative Reporter

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Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

0:47.1

The Epstein Files release.

0:50.7

It's a big hoax.

0:53.4

Lies, lies, lies.

0:56.0

Why won't Bondi release the files?

1:00.3

What is she hiding?

1:02.4

This, as Jeline Maxwell gives a statement to the feds,

1:06.6

it's nothing but a pack of lies, including wait for it.

1:10.3

The Jeffrey Epstein couldn't sleep with

1:12.5

adult women because of a heart condition. This is while he is charged with sex trafficking

1:21.9

minors. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories. I want to thank you for being with us.

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