four, three, two, one.

And we are live with Dr. Daniel Estelin,

whose book has sold over nine million copies.

He's an expert in secret societies, Bilderberg, Davos.

The big picture, folks, because many of us are focused on the salacious headlines of the Epstein case.

But this is part of an apparatus that has been in existence for decades.

So Dr. Estillin is going to break this down for so huge.

Thank you for coming on, Daniel.

Thanks so much for having me.

It's a pleasure to be on the show.

I'm not an expert in Secret Society. I'm not an expert on Bilderberg either. What I do is I have a doctorate degree in political science. So what I do is I literally create models that explain things at a macro level. That's what I'm good at. Okay. And the secret society's private organization just happened to be a part of this global, you know, supernational model. That's why I got involved with all these things in the first place. So, all right, what generated that interest in you to go down that avenue? Well, you know, the answer itself is really silly.

I was coming out of the...

Again, I come from the world of military counterintelligence.

I'm an analyst.

I'm a specialist in Africa, okay, Africanist.

And so when I was finishing my service back in 2003 to early 2004,

my daughter, over the time was four or five years old.

I had a little daughter.

I had no job.

And so I needed to do something to make some money.

So I said to myself, well, you know,

and again, I was in the Russian military counterintelligence.

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