Hi, everybody. If you don't know Whitney Webb is or if you don't read her stuff, then you're missing probably the best investigative reporter in America today.

I really want to talk to you about the past words and also about Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein. I know you're doing a book about that right now.

I don't know how you do it with me, how you do your research, but you are more dialed in than anybody that I know and understand the gravity of what's happening and all the characters are.

And the role not only of the pharmaceutical industry, but the banks, the financial industry, the intelligence agencies and others in, I guess what people would now call the great reset.

The implementation is used as leveraging that we're saying of the pandemic to impose these totalitarian controls and these huge cultural and value shifts and structural shifts in American democracy.

Whitney writes for her own website, which is called unlimited hangout and she also writes often for the defender. Thank you for doing that and also for the last American bag up on, but her stories are the kind of stories that I just wait, you know, to come out and I'm very excited when I see anything new that you've written.

Let's talk about Bill Gates and his friend Jeffrey Epstein and wait, was that really a friendship? What was going on there?

Well, you know, it's hard to describe exactly the nature of the relationship in that sense because a lot of the way that the people around Epstein were, it's hard to really call them friends because a lot of the way that network operates is through blackmail, even on people that are technically on their side.

So it's a very dog eat dog world, I guess he could say so friends may sort of be a loose term in the way that, you know, regular people understand it when you're talking about this type of, you know, ruling elite, they have a very different mentality and a very different approach to friendship, maybe then the average person would.

But what's not particularly notable about the Bill Gates Jeffrey Epstein relationship is that even now that it's being talked about in mainstream circles and connection with the Gates is divorce, the mainstream media continues to assert that they did not meet until 2011.

There is a mountain of evidence in my opinion that suggests that this is categorically false and that they actually knew each other back in the 1990s, I first stumbled upon this in 2019 when I was doing an investigative series on the Epstein scandal.

There was a scrubbed article from January 22, 2001 that had originally been published in the evening standard of well respected UK newspaper talking about Prince Andrew and his relationship with just Lane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and the part on Jeffrey Epstein and the reason it was scrubbed it appears to have been scrubbed during the period of his first arrest between 2006 and 2007 is because it mentions the fact that Jeffrey Epstein.

At some point before the publication of that article had openly claimed to have been working in collaboration with the central intelligence agency, the CIA.

So, of course, the revelations that later came to light about Epstein obviously the, you know, the powers that be the national security state didn't want to have any obvious ties hanging around there so that article.

Ended up disappearing, but was also notable about that article and what stuck out to me is that, you know, since this was published in 2001 there's a line in there talking about Epstein saying that Epstein was a billionaire hedge fund manager, which was sort of the.

Property developer, which is sort of the theme at the time and articles about Epstein, but it says that Epstein made his millions through his business links with three individuals Leslie Wexner Donald Trump and Bill Gates being the third, which is pretty significant when you consider the closeness of someone like Donald Trump and Leslie Wexner to Jeffrey Epstein to have Bill Gates and a list of those alongside those two individuals suggest the ties were rather close.

At least one Epstein victim that i've spoken to personally, who was in the you know sort of embroiled in Epstein's network from 1995 to 1996 said that she heard Epstein and in Maxwell talk about Bill Gates like they knew him really well.

And of course, we know that an Ethan Mervold who was chief technology officer of Microsoft throughout the 1990s, one of Bill Gates closest confidants who co wrote his book The Road ahead in the late 90s you know very very much involved in Microsoft's business and and and Bill Gates his life as well was very close to Jeffrey Epstein during the 1990s he traveled with him actually to Russia as part of a Microsoft Russia conference.

There's photographs of Epstein being a part of that trip along with a journalist sort of a digital media journalist name Esther Dyson.

Esther Dyson Bill Gates Nathan Mervold and a lot of the Silicon Valley elite are part of something called the edge foundation, which is basically how Epstein was able to connect so intimately with a lot of the individuals that would later become the Silicon Valley elite.

This includes people like Jeff Bezos Kimball and Elon Musk Bill Gates Nathan Mervold and some other names as well also in responsible for how he ended up having dinners with people like Google co founders or gay brin.

All of these people were connected to the edge foundation, which was founded by this literary agent who also has ties to the national security state named John Brockman from about 2001 to 2017 Epstein was the pretty much the main donor to the edge foundation and it was basically an influence.

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