What's going on? We're welcome to another edition of the Secrets to Success podcast. This is your boy Carl.

Man, look, let me just be real with you guys. Life got the better of us this time, man. Technology.

We recorded the podcast and honestly for whatever reason, the first 20 minutes of it, it's just not playing.

Literally, it's not playing. We can see the file. Everything is not playing. But it's like our longest podcast.

We went like an hour and a half. So we still got like over an hour of great content.

Josh, jump on with us, man. You guys just missed us talking at the beginning about the weekends festivities.

Jalen, of course, you guys, if you're following know the Jalen graduate of this weekend from Michigan State University in four years, your boy ET did it in 12.

Jalen cut that down to four, man. So we just kind of talked about that a bit.

And man, I'm not going to hold you guys up. We're just going to jump right into the rest of it now. So enjoy the podcast.

I was, it was funny. I had a kid. It was like right before church.

And he came up to me, man. And he had been coming to the church for a while. I hadn't been to the church in, you know, I don't know, a month or two maybe.

And so he came up to me, right? And he said something and I kind of like had to think about it.

And it was crazy because he didn't even know that we had this conversation. And then he kind of preached about it.

And I want to play some of what he preached about this weekend and just let you guys in on what he said.

Now he didn't know we had this conversation, but this kid came up to me. And he said something deep. He was just like, yo, I read the book, Average Skill Phenomenal Will.

You know, I know what you guys talk about with the heart and the hustle and the grind and all of that.

He said, but I don't fully believe it. And I was like, what do you mean? He was like, yo, I'm looking at E.

And y'all saying Average Skill Phenomenal Will. He like, I'm watching E. That ain't Average Skill.

You know what I'm saying? He's like, yo, y'all talented for real. Like I'm looking at Carl videos.

I'm looking at you. Eat like yo, y'all talented too. Y'all trying to act like you don't need any talent to blow up.

And you do need talent. And I was like, hmm, I had to think about it. I was like, okay, I'm listening to what you're saying.

And he's like, for real, people talk about he started going off. He's like, people talk about Michael Jordan and getting cut from the, you know, team or whatever.

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