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Endless Thread

Episodes We Love: How to Fight a Shark

Endless Thread

WBUR

Reddit, Technology

4.22.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

This episode originally aired on July 12, 2024. It has been updated to more clearly represent communication with Kayleigh Grant about a conversation with Kristian Parton.

When Endless Thread producer Grace Tatter heard a friend assert that she could ward off a shark because of TikTok, Grace was both concerned for her friend's safety, and curious. Why are there so many videos about "redirecting" sharks on TikTok, and how accurate are they?

Hosts Ben Brock Johnson and Amory Sivertson dive into the controversial world of SharkTok, where influencers are trying to show a different side of sharks by getting up close and personal with them.

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0:16.8

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0:34.4

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0:56.8

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1:04.0

Hello, endless threadheads.

1:06.9

It's the 4th of July weekend, and this year is the 50th anniversary of Jaws, the movie that, of course, has made generations of summer swimmers terrified of sharks, to the species detriment, I would say.

1:20.2

So we're revisiting an episode from last year about the TikTok influencers who want to teach you what to do if you encounter a shark and some of the scientists who are not so sure about their advice.

1:33.3

And one of the influencers that you'll hear about, Ocean Ramsey, is the subject of a new documentary on Netflix called Shark Whisperer.

1:42.3

So let's put on our goggles and our flippies and dive in.

1:48.5

Oh, but wait, I do just want to say,

1:50.6

you're going to hear Ben make fun of me at the top of this episode

1:52.9

for not being a good swimmer.

1:55.9

And I want you to know I've been taking swim lessons for about six months now.

2:00.2

So kind of proud of myself, just putting it out there.

2:03.5

Okay, here's the episode. WBUR Podcasts, Boston.

2:25.4

Emery, as an expert swimmer, I need to ask you a question.

2:31.4

Reporting for duty, yes.

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