Welcome to Among the Lilies, Episode 4. I'm Cameron Frad. This is the show for ladies who are tired of pretending and are ready to be real. In today's episode, I interview Patty Michaelossack about how our relationships with God and our husbands

come from the same place in our hearts and often mirror one another. Enjoy the show.

Shouldn't you be easier to love?

Hello and welcome back to Among the Lillies. I am your host, Cameron Frad, and I am so excited to have another evening with you here. I have an amazing, beautiful woman I'm about to interview for y'all. Patty Michaelossack. She is a very dear, dear friend of mine, and I have been blessed to have her in my life for quite a while. We have known each other since I was actually a

teenager. I think I was 18 or 19 when we first met. And I got to see Patty and her husband kind of

in the beginning of them falling in love and be at their wedding.

And it was just so amazing and beautiful.

And Patty just is an amazing, beautiful, holy woman.

And I am very blessed to call her a very dear friend of mine.

And she actually knew both Matt and I prior to us ever meeting. So she knew

my husband before I knew my husband. But I know my husband better and more intimately. Right, Patty?

Yeah. And Patty also was my supervisor when I served with Net Ministries.

And so she kind of took on more of a spiritual director role in my life, like a mentor.

And she also got to be at our wedding. And she's the godmother of one of my wonderful girls.

And Patty, I just love you so much.

And I'm so excited to introduce all of our listeners to you.

So thank you so much for coming on with me today.

Thanks, Cameron.

Like it means, it means a lot to be.

Like, your love for me is just really special.

I love you too.

Oh, yeah.

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