Everything's gone as long as the wall's creed is black.

Right here next to me –

everything's just fleeting.

This world of depression, placebo addition, I'm John Moe.

Placebo's are small episodes meant to bridge the gap between our regular seasons of the show.

Season 2 is just around the corner, some very funny people.

Big names coming up in that.

Now back in season 1, comedian Jen Kirkman described her panic disorder like this.

It's like a passenger in my front seat that is always there, and they never pipe up

unless I'm about to get in an accident and they have terrible ideas about what to do.

And then I sometimes I listen to them and they spin out or sometimes I go, great idea,

we're not doing it though.

And then I move on.

In our first Placebo episode this past spring, listener Bre Tarkware talked about dealing

with her intrusive thoughts by naming them Steve.

So when I'm at the mall and I hear what if you went to the third floor and jumped off,

it's not me who's thinking that it's Steve and I can just say Steve, that's a ridiculous

horrible idea.

I don't know why anyone would do that.

Personification is an idea that some therapists recommend because you are not your panic or your

anxiety or eating disorder or depression.

It's a thought experiment that helps that separation to happen.

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