Hi, Raising Parents Listeners. Emily Oster here. I've got a special bonus episode I'm excited to share with you from my feed, Parent Data. It's all about the greatness and importance of summer camp, especially in 2025. Camp is one of the few places where kids get a permission slip to be off their phones,

where kids who don't quite fit in at school get a fresh start and maybe even find their

people.

Yes, I'm talking about my personal revelation at Math Camp.

And it's a kind of exposure therapy for parents, too, learning to be okay with a little

unsupervised play. Today, me and Steve Baskin, a career camp director and incoming head of the

American Camping Association, get into all of that and much more. Stay with us.

Today it's sailing. Milo, Alina, and Anna all got their beginners.

I'm Emily Oster. This is Parent Data.

And today, we're going to camp.

Okay, everybody show me your bracelets.

How many bracelets am I looking at right now? A lot.

Also, that's another thing about camp. You like give people a bunch of different

bracelets. And I'll be like, oh, this one's from so and so, this one's from so.

It's kind of like little memories you wear.

Yeah, I mean, it's...

Memories of people from the counselors.

I have a ball.

If I make this shot, I get mixed dessert.

Yeah.

It's lunch time.

Okay?

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