The Jedi are romanticized, deified.

But if you strip away the myth and look at their deeds,

the legacy of the Jedi is failure.

Hypocryce, hubris.

That's not true.

At the height of their powers, they allowed Darth's city as to rise,

create the empire and wipe them out.

It was a Jedi master who was responsible for the training and creation of Darth Vader. Welcome Masters and Padawants to episode 403 of full of sick.

As ever, I'm a host of the show, Brian Young, with me, the redoubtable Holly Fry.

Hello, hello. And, Holly, we'veoubtable Holly Frye. Hello, hello. And Holly,

we've got a guest today. I'm very excited for this guest. Me too. So we've got Dr. Ollie,

a clinical psychologist and creator of the psych show. And for those of you who've been around

on the show for a long time, you might remember him from the

Star Trek versus Star Wars debate that I participated in in San Diego Comic-Con years and

years and years ago. And we were on opposing sides of that, but became friends because of it.

So, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me, Brian and Holly. It's,

it's, I feel like a long time listener, first time guest. Is that the right thing? Well, it's not the first time you've been a guest on a show with me. No, that's right. We've got like a double

connection here. Right. I got to have you on

the Raised by Wolves podcast so you could talk about all of the wackiness that went on with that show,

which was super fun because you were, I don't know if we told you at the time, you were the only guest

that got to see the entire series before you came on. Yeah, yeah.

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