Episode 985: AI Update – Anthropic’s IPO, Pope Leo’s Encyclical and China
Newt's World
Gingrich 360
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 4 June 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Newt talks with Neil Chilson, Head of AI Policy at the Abundance Institute about the latest AI news. They discuss Anthropic’s IPO and the current AI investment surge. Chilson maintains it is a genuine boom rather than a speculative bubble, driven by massive datacenter and energy buildouts that are already generating substantial revenue. Their conversation turns to Pope Leo’s 42,000-word encyclical on AI. Chilson praises its emphasis on human flourishing but notes its academic skepticism toward technology and markets and observes that it appears only four years into the AI era, long before the full benefits and risks are known. They discuss China as a “fast follower” pursuing “good enough” AI models powered by abundant energy and released as open source, in contrast to U.S. labs’ focus on proprietary frontier models, and Chilson cautions that China may gain economic and military advantages by rapidly integrating AI across its economy and systems even without surpassing U.S. model quality.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.3 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:08.0 | Welcome to Neutral Podcast on the I-Heart Podcast Network. |
| 0:12.7 | There's a Chinese company, Gij Networks, which is developing technology to use artificial |
| 0:19.5 | intelligence to predict who might pose a political |
| 0:22.7 | risk in China. According to League documents, the Chinese company, which is called GEEEGGE, |
| 0:28.4 | GEEDGE, networks, sells a commercial version of the Great Firewall, the surveillance |
| 0:36.2 | and censorship program China uses to control online activities. |
| 0:40.7 | Just a reminder that there are always downsides the new technologies. |
| 0:45.7 | There are great upsides and there are great downsides. |
| 0:48.5 | And here you have a company in China working on a new product that would use artificial intelligence |
| 0:53.2 | to predict who might say or do something |
| 0:56.6 | critical of the government. You know, given the chaos of the United States system, can you imagine |
| 1:01.8 | what that would look like on both sides, the right and the left? The company's progress appears to |
| 1:07.3 | be slowed by export controls and U.S. design computer chips that currently power |
| 1:12.7 | artificial intelligence, but I think you're going to see sooner or later some ability to get access. |
| 1:19.2 | Apparently they're developing sort of graphics processing units, but they need more advanced |
| 1:24.4 | ships. My personal hunch is very hard to stop technology from spreading. |
| 1:29.6 | Now, on a different front, Russia signed a nuclear agreement with Kazakhstan. |
| 1:34.9 | People forget that the Soviet Union, they had nuclear capabilities and they had |
| 1:39.7 | manufacturing capabilities and space launch capabilities outside of Russia itself. And Kazakhstan |
| 1:46.0 | was one of those places. Russians are now committed to building a commercial power plant, |
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