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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 98: That’s What Leadership Looks Like

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2018

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode we take a break from our deep-dive series on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in order to reengage with the weekly inflow of national security law news.  We had no choice, really, for one our sustaining members--Doe v. Mattis--saw dramatic developments.  So here's what we've got: Military Detention of a US citizen - Erstwhile military detainee and US citizen John Doe has been named!  Not only that, but he's been released to Bahrain. And his passport was cancelled.  We've got a recap of this remarkable development, and a summary of the larger lessons learned (or not learned) from this near-14 month legal odyssey.  Adios, Doe v. Mattis! Border deployment - News that President Trump is sending 5200 troops to the border has triggered a wave of references to ye ol' Posse Comitatus Act, and even speculation about an executive attempt to suspend habeas.  Buckle up for some debunking... Birthright citizenship - As if the border deployment story is not enough, suddenly we find President Trump also talking about an executive order to revoke or limit birthright citizenship.  Prepare for some more fun-with-debunking, as we take a tour through the Fourteenth Amendment and the Supreme Court's decisions in Wong Kim Ark and Plyler v. Doe.  Domestic terrorism - The horrific events of the past week lead us to close with comments about domestic terrorism as a core national security concern. No extended frivolity this week, either.  Instead, we close with a special guest offering wise words and a resounding illustration of leadership.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 98 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:14.4

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:17.6

It's Tuesday morning, October 30th.

0:19.6

I'm Bobby Chesney.

0:20.7

I'm Steve Vladik. Bobby. The votes are in.

0:23.4

The election is over. They've had the election and the results are... The people have spoken.

0:29.6

What did the people tell us? The people have told us that today's episode is not, in fact, going to be part three of our deep dive on FISA.

0:36.7

Surfacing. SurfISA. Surfacing.

0:38.1

Surfacing.

0:39.1

Surface quickly. We are returning to the surface because there are bright, shiny objects everywhere.

0:44.7

We need to surface to take a...

0:47.2

Service the ship.

0:47.9

Surface the ship.

0:48.5

I.

0:49.0

Surface the ship.

0:50.3

Con sonar.

0:51.3

Crazy Ivan.

0:52.3

We are going to go to the surface.

0:53.3

Which way is he turned him to this

0:55.2

dumb it's okay if anyone is still listening yeah we lost him already we have decided that

1:01.7

there actually have been enough events we didn't decide that people decided there's been

1:06.1

enough stuff going on that we need to re-engage with the news in the world of national security

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